| Disney Animation Reuse
Disney reuses its animation but this is hard to spot unless pictures are put side by side for comparison. Here are pairs of pictures to be spotted for animation reuse. 24 more pics after the jump.
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May 2nd, 2006 at 5:24 am
Very interesting page; all animators know Disney reused large sequences of material on almost all of his films.
May 2nd, 2006 at 11:30 pm
Thanks for this – it’s put together nicely. Those lazy bums
May 3rd, 2006 at 2:07 am
of course they use the same animation sequence. they just change the artwork.. you don’t have to invent the wheel all the time..
May 3rd, 2006 at 2:15 am
that is so cool. how did you even think of that? i feel so cheated! thanks for pointing out the truth for us!
May 3rd, 2006 at 3:36 am
If you look at movies like Disney’s “Jungle Book” you will see that quite a bit of the animation is simply flipped over and reused. A lot of the animation of the Elephants in this film are taken from the short subject “Goliath 2.” Almost the entire King Louie sequence, where the monkeys are trying to “steal?” Mowgl, is the same animation as the weasels trying to take the deed to Toad Hall in “Wind in the Wilows”.
May 3rd, 2006 at 6:29 am
Do you know how time consuming it is to hand draw a 1 hour movie? I’m sure reuse was common and not just at Disney but other traditional animation studios. Now, with the introduction of computers movies take less time and reuse is no longer needed to aid in reducing production times.
May 4th, 2006 at 1:07 am
Hi there!
I just wanna say to “coder2000″ that I agree with him when he said “Do you know how time consuming it is to hand draw a 1 hour movie?”, but he’s wrong with “Now, with the introduction of computers movies take less time and reuse is no longer needed to aid in reducing production times”, because they do! In “Finding Nemo”, there is two sequences where Marlin is sad, & Dory said “There, there…”, they reused exactly the same animation, AND the same camera angle! (explained in the DVD’s extra features…) Perhaps they just reused the same render (only the character channel), which makes you win even more time (render time is a nightmare…). But the more powerful in 3D is that you can reuse an animation track on an another character, somtime very different from the original, or simply change the camera angle, or a cloth simulation, or whatever…
May 4th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
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May 4th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
I wouldn’t exactly call it reused animation.Reused is using the exact same drawings. In the examples above sure the poses and the timing and much of the compostion is the same but the comparible images are different.From the amour on the knight to the character itself it’s another drawing. Done by hand.
May 9th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
That’s very interesting and thanks for pointing it out. ^_^
Regards ~
May 11th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
I agree with Joe
May 12th, 2006 at 8:51 am
Very interesting site. Seems strange that so many people are getting upset by you posting this. I wasn’t aware that Disney did this and found it interesting. Sad that people are offended by this post.
May 18th, 2006 at 10:34 am
There is beef in both McTasty and BigMac… anybody wanna whine and cry about that too?
Cartoons are not about showing you something brand-new, it’s about entertaining you. If you feel entertained while watching a cartoon (mainly a childrens media) then: mission acomplished.
But all in all, nice spotting. Shows that somebody has a good eye. Although I don’t like over anal-yse fun stuff like cartoons I’ll admit that it takes some talent to notice that kind of stuff.
May 19th, 2006 at 10:58 pm
Thank you for posting this here for us to see
At least I didn’t know =/ Never noticed it.
I’m surprised when I’m reading the comments, I mean, you were only showing us this and you never said that it was wrong to do this, only that Disney does…
May 23rd, 2006 at 8:08 pm
wow. whilst i understand the philosophy of reusing animation, the logistics of locating and adapting existing drawings to fit your current project doesnt seem to be a time saver at all. the only example used which could be is the snow white dance, the others just dont seem to be worth it. the only benefit is you can use grunts to do it, but still, the homework has to be done.
either way, its sloppy
are there any more examples?
May 26th, 2006 at 1:52 am
How much time did you invest in this bit of brilliance? Did you realize that they reuse actors in many different movies? I’ve seen the same locations in many different movies too. Wow, I feel so cheated. My entertainment value from these films is degraded forever. Please send me a refund (NOT Disney-YOU). [I enjoyed the films when I saw them-regardless of what Disney did, so it's you who've ruined the experience forever].
Is the world a better place now?
May 26th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Uh … I thought it was interesting.
I also think you maybe need to find some readers that eat more fiber …
May 26th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
Very interesting. Old amiga fans should look here too :
http://www.kameli.net/nocopy/
May 28th, 2006 at 6:09 am
Hey all just wanted to note that the animation was reused after Walt had passed away and the company had lost most of its creative juices. Milt Kahl, one of Walt’s nine old men, talks about this same thing in a lecture he gave at CALArts around 1976-79? You can download the lecture from http://www.sewardstreet.com/media/index.html
Should be able to see the headings as you scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
He points out that the company at this time was not intrested in animation and tried to use as many shortcuts as possible, the animators and even the directors were overuled. Anyways just thought I’d throw that out there before everyone starts thinking thats how all of Disney Films were done.
June 6th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Of course animation is reused. Disney is not the only one. Did you ever watch a Flintstone cartoon? or Scooby Doo? So what was the real point here?
June 7th, 2006 at 2:01 am
I can’t understand why you are so upset with this. After all, it takes some ingenuity to tweak your story (or scene) so that you can reuse some previous work (and get away with it).
To the person who said it is not done anymore, let me tell you it is still done on low budget projects. I’m working on a TV series now and we rely a lot on recicling. We wouldn’t be able to finish each chapter on time if we didn’t use work previously done.
Good work Hemmy.net! I can see you have a lot of time in your hands!
June 12th, 2006 at 7:10 am
very good very good
if it saves the time then ok reuse it
no problem
your work is always appreciateable
keep movin’
June 15th, 2006 at 6:36 am
Dude! You have WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much time on your hands. Get a girlfriend or at the very least, a blowup doll. Oh wait, you’ve probably already got a few of those. Seriously, get a life!
June 16th, 2006 at 8:31 am
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June 18th, 2006 at 6:18 am
I agree with “dudes”.
July 10th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
they made new drawings…Ok, the base it’s the same..but is that bad?
I don’t think so.
stop cheating on Disney please.
July 13th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
Hey YOU!!! Whats wrong in it? Seriously whats wrong? People who steal from others work are more in this fuckig World. But Disney, Disney, Dis… n..e.y., DISNEY>>> You dont worry. I am here to support You from all these braths.
We are going to take the World ahead tomorrow
(& I really dont expect a Hiring letter from Disney at all)
July 16th, 2006 at 7:02 am
All you judgemental simpletons need to keep your wack opinions to yourself. The page is very interesting, if you don’t like it, hit the back button.
July 29th, 2006 at 12:46 am
Surfer’s right. Stop thinking that the guy who made this doesn’t like Disney. He’s just pointing put something interesting.
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August 20th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
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August 30th, 2006 at 7:20 am
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August 31st, 2006 at 9:07 pm
[...] But there are other ways to reuse imagery. Walt Disney has in fact developed a production method that involves the reuse of animation cells to cut production costs. [...]
October 29th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
I realized that Disney has been reusing it’s animation for a long time now, but usually it’s just a few frames! Recently I rented “The Wild” and half of the scenes look like they came from the Lion King and Brother Bear. It’s the same angles, same subjects (large adult lion getting trampled by a heard of wildabeasts and he saves his son by putting him in a tree.) And a lot of the “be prepared” song that Scar sings is in the movie too! It’s never been more obvious about the reused animation than in the movie The Wild! Over HALF of the movie was reused! Come to think of it, the other half probably was too, I just can’t remember every scene for every movie.
November 12th, 2006 at 7:25 am
wow, disney rescues animation, who cares? lol, bottom line is its boring and sad to look up stuff like that and whats great, the films are amazing they rocked many genereations, and hes minted from it, and no matter how much complaining or how much very sad proof like this anyone comes up with, it dont means jak!
gd day xox
December 18th, 2006 at 9:28 am
I just watched the Robin Hood DVD last night, surprisingly I didn’t catch the Show White reuse but I did notice that during the same scene, the animation and character designs for the band were recycled from The Aristocats (especially noticable during the closeup shots of the drummer)
I’m not saying it’s a bad or good thing but I do find it interesting.
December 25th, 2006 at 11:29 am
I don’t feel anyone was cheated, honestly I wonder if the people bitching have ever written code…anyway if Disney is using it in different movies, and it’s not obvious while you are watching the movie, there is no need to get bitchy (I don’t like using this word, but right now I’m tired and it works)
January 19th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
hi my name is sarra and my opion on this website is that it is so cool!!! i think you should do more animatied films because they are becoming really popular!!!! for example cars!!!! lol
March 27th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
If you want to have some fun, run the ‘chase for the will’ scene in MR. TOAD and compare it with the chase in the monkey scene in JUNGLE BOOK –Mowgli ‘floats’ at one point since he once was a piece of paper….
And they reused some reeds from THE OLD MILL in ICHABOD.
It’s a business. They sometimes had financial troubles. and at least they reused from THEIR OWN pictures!
The pictures are either good or not good. WINNIE THE POOH was good. ROBIN HOOD was not good even though it reuseds scenes from SNOW WHITE. Copying goodness does not make you good.
March 29th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Actually as someone else pointed out computer animation doesn’t mean that they don’t have similarities. For example in the “Lord of the rings” when they fight the cave troll in Moria. If you compare that sequence to how the troll in the girls bathroom (in the 1st Harry Potter movie) moves you will notice that they both move in a very similar way. Both characters were probably animated using the same software. Likewise in Disney’s “The rescuers down under” and “The Lion king” disney had sequences that used a few drawn animals as the models for a whole herd of animals (in stamped). It would have been too time consuming to draw each animal thousands of times to create the sequence otherwise. And there have been behind the scenes clips on tv that showed similar sequences (of Disney movies). One was of the fight that Tod gets into (Fox and the hound) vs. the fight that Bongo has with another bear (if my memory serves). Sometimes similar points occur in different movies and the animators draw on the work done before them as inspiration. It is an interesting topic though. Picking out sequences and relating them to other Disney films that you have seen before. Disney even uses Shakespeare in their movies. The “Lion King” is a good example. Plot: Uncle kills brother for the throne and tries to kill his nephew as well. That idea comes straight out of Hamlet though Simba is a bit more fortunate at the end than the prince of Denmark was.
April 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pm
“Hard to spot”? Are you serious? The re-used sequences in The Sword in the Stone are so blatantly obvious that you could play a drinking game with it: take a shot every time some animation or a soundclip is unabashedly repeated.
Being an animator I’m aware how arduous the process is, so it doesn’t bother me at all, but the “hard to spot” comment was hilarious.
April 14th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
There’s an old episode of the Animation Podcast which features an interview with one of the old-timers at Disney. He spoke of how they’d use anything, even old Disney movies, as the first rotoscope or motion-picture-storyboard. I had a new appreciation for the reasons behind this duplication when I heard that podcast.
May 21st, 2007 at 9:51 am
very well put to gether… i always wondered if they reused frames…
every animator uses these techniques… hell i bet pixar uses a butt load of 3d models for more than one movie…
if you know how long it takes for some one to do this with out reusing it you would understand why they do it… this is not a new concept or even something that anyone cares about…
to bad sketch work is becoming obsolite … hell everyone is using 3d animation… even family guy uses 3d modeling… if you think im wrong go look it up before you say anything… trust me they use 3d animation…
thats right they are cheating and useing 3d
its part of animation just love it and get over it…
May 24th, 2007 at 12:46 am
i love this Sight.
May 30th, 2007 at 1:23 am
That is interesting, never knew it.
I like seeing too.
June 16th, 2007 at 3:06 am
There are a lot more examples around the internet too. This is pretty cool though. I bet they reuse a lot more than you would think.
July 5th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
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July 6th, 2007 at 3:10 am
The dance sequences in Aristocats and Robin Hood are the same– check Maid Marion and the lady cat– same “groovy” moves, haha
July 6th, 2007 at 3:30 am
Why is everybody being so childish about this?
I thought this was a very interesting post, until I read the comment thread.
Not one post suggested Disney might be doing this as a stylistic technique or hommage to the classics?
I think it’s quite cool they reuse sequences.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:10 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 4:15 am
You must have a lot of time on your hands
July 6th, 2007 at 4:34 am
That was interesting, proving that disney’s use of archetypes @ the time wasn’t limited only to concept designs but also the same animation.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:45 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 4:55 am
Homage: a reference within a creative work to someone who greatly influenced the artist would be an homage. It is typically used to denote a reference in a work of art or literature to another, at least somewhat widely known, work. See In-joke for a somewhat similar meaning.
Sheesh.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:57 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 4:57 am
What people may not realize is that most Disney features were Rotoscoped,
eg FIRST an actor is filmed performing the motion, THEN an animator draws the characters on top of the live-action footage.
So in most cases it´s not so much about recycling animation as returning to the reference material.
That beeing said, the Robin Hood-dance sequence is a total patchwork – it referrences not only Snow White, but the Jungle Book too.
What I *don´t* understand is why some people appearently “feel cheated” by this. As long as the method gets the job done, cheating is not even an issue.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:59 am
God dammit everything sucks!
July 6th, 2007 at 5:01 am
I worked in a traditional commercial animation studio for 5 years. This is a common practice in animation, it is a time and money saver. Hand drawn animation is expensive and back in those days Disney was still doing all production in the US and reusing less animation than places like Hanna-Barbera or Warner Brothers where re-use was more widespread.
Disney does this repetition even within their own movies – especially during the 70′s (i.e…robin hood).
Other places use repetition too. The Homer strangling Bart animation from almost every episode from The Simpsons is the exact same sequence every time.
It isn’t a big deal, but it is cool to see some examples head to head. Thanks for posting!
July 6th, 2007 at 5:05 am
No big deal I think. They had blocking which worked for one scene, why not use it again if it works.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:07 am
Are we really going to let ourselves feel cheated by this? Taking artwork from the form of a full creative composition and transposing it into feature-lenght animation will definitively reduce its technical originality, even if no two appaerant animated movements are ever identical.
Re-using the same basic structure of movement for two otherwise unrelated “shots” isn’t going to ruin the film for you unless you dwell on it. The effectiveness of the film is in its overall composition. As the author of this thread points out, these duplications are difficult to find unless you go scouring for them.
I have to admit, I remember as I got older that I noticed some of the duplications of carachter action in “The Sword In The Stone”. But they constitute a few moments out of a three-to-five minute scene.
Today, we use computer modeling and generation to mask the use of mechanical animation. It may look more fluid and alive on-screen, but the process invloves just as much technical duplication and quick re-hashing as in the old days. It sure helps things look better and feel more natural, but the overall creative process has not gotten any worse or better.
A lot of these compositions weren’t meant to be pieces in which technical execution was pushed to the painstaking point at which we marvel at the sight of it. Snow White might have been, but it was still a film whose overall goal was to be entertaining and rich throughout. Not to argue that it had the most gripping plot or most in-depth carachter development, but its achievement as a feature-length animated film was still something of a triumph. The fact that a few hundred frames of animation were reused hardly disqualifies it from that status, and it certainly doesn’t mean there is no creativity in the process of the animation.
Beyond that, using models from previous films (like as we see in Sword in the Stone, Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Winnie The Pooh) might have been a bit chincy, however; the actual model for making the carachter move in an appearantly fluid and natural way had obviously already been established 30 years earlier when they made Snow White. Disney had moved into churning out feature-length releases quickly and on low-budget at that point, but some of these pictures were still pretty fun to watch.
They had two choices: use the same model for making 2-dementional carachters appear to move realistically, or try to make up an altogether new way to do it.
Since they had limited time and budget to spend on being innovative, and since the model that had been used with Snow White still looked pretty realistic 30, 40 years later, why try to crack your skull over it? And if that’s the case, why not just use the same model, but even snatch some of the exact same movements created from that model and dress them up in new characters? Or, as in the case of some of the duplications from one movie to another released around the same time, just nail it once for the first picture and then use it again for the next one.
It’s cheap, yes. It’s not super innovative, but it’s effective. Some of those 60′s and 70′s Disney films are memorable for being less grandiose and overly-important in feel than the older ones, and for adopting a sense of more realistic characters in them.
Overall, I hardly consider this earth-shattering news. It’s just kind of “huh, that’s interesting”.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:23 am
I love seeing this, it’s like a behind the scenes tour. Of course we know that they use many techniques to save time, but it’s rare to see it presented so clearly. It’s a good lesson for fledgling animators, thanks for the post!
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July 6th, 2007 at 5:58 am
What’s so bad about reusing? Isn’t the complete IT world built on reusing components and code? DLLs, web services, object classes, etc.
July 6th, 2007 at 6:04 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 6:07 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 6:19 am
I assume that what prompted this set of posts was just the realization that even animators at the top of the game use shortcuts in their work. This is mildly interesting, but more interestingly is the copyright implications of this. As most people know, nothing is created in a vacuum. Reuse of old animation (intellectual property) to create new animation is an admission of this. It is interesting to see that a company that fought so hard to extend copyright (see. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act) itself realizes the value of using existing work to create new works. Maybe Disney animators might benefit from the work of other animators if some of that intellectual property moved into the public domain?
July 6th, 2007 at 6:24 am
Awesome post. Oh, such jaded people! “We knew this already.” “All animators know this!” I’d venture to bet that for most people this is a huge revelation. I’m not a complete film naif, but I didn’t know this. As for moral complications, I could care less. It’s just interesting to me.
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July 6th, 2007 at 7:31 am
I’m suprised people never realized animators reuse scenes.
You know they reuse voice actors too!! :O
July 6th, 2007 at 7:50 am
You missed the ones from Japan. Well, technically they didn’t “re-use” these. Stole is a more appropriate term.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:59 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 8:38 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Wow, I knew there was something creepy familiar. I just never put my finger on it.
Thanks for the screenshots!
July 6th, 2007 at 8:52 am
Wow, whats with the over reacting!
OMG! U WINGEY BSTARD DONT U KNOW DISNEY IS TEH ROXXOR?
WHO CARES IF THEY RE-USE SCENES THEY ARE DA BOMB!
I think whomever put the post up in the first place just found it interesting and wanted to demonstrate it.
Oh and in regards to Jo who posted fairly early on
“I wouldn’t exactly call it reused animation.Reused is using the exact same drawings. In the examples above sure the poses and the timing and much of the compostion is the same but the comparible images are different.From the amour on the knight to the character itself it’s another drawing. Done by hand.”
Clearly the night is the same cell with some changes made. Remember that they’d usually make up an outline first (no colour etc) then go over it with colour and adding other details. Given that the arm is in the exact same position with the same lines on the elbow etc, I’d say they’ve used an identical outline, then just touched it up a bit.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:21 am
Cool comparisons. I wouldn’t have caught them, myself.
I’m surprised you didn’t catch the complete recycling of a snippet, used twice in Robin Hood: the characters are singing a song mocking the sheriff, and the little bunny children start laughing and falling over. The exact same snippet is used in another place in the same movie. Not even the background scenery changes.
I agree with smithee, it’s like a backstage tour. Thanks!
July 6th, 2007 at 9:24 am
While everybody is second guessing, I wonder if Disney would have changed the way they did things if they had known that some day everyone would have his own deconstructible copy?
July 6th, 2007 at 10:29 am
There is a shot in the Black Cauldron of Taran walking through the forest that is re-used from a shot of Wart walking through the Forest to retrieve Kay’s arrow.
July 6th, 2007 at 11:18 am
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July 6th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
that’s amazing and a bit surreal!
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July 6th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
I thought this was interesting. Thanks for posting it.
(I’m sorry that some of the other comments have been so hostile.)
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July 7th, 2007 at 12:55 am
Snow White was done largely by roto-scoping.. so they probably just used that old footage and scoped it again.
July 7th, 2007 at 6:21 am
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July 7th, 2007 at 7:06 am
I’ve noticed that before, but not in the ones that you mentioned. I noticed similarities between Robin Hood and the Aristocats. Watch the dance routine in Robin Hood where they are singing about Prince John the phony king of England… then watch the dance routine in the Aristocats with Scat Cat and his gang singin “Everybody Wants To Be A Cat.” There is especially a lot of similarities between Maid Marian and Duchess.
July 7th, 2007 at 7:25 am
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July 7th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Oh, and I don’t think it “ruins it” that they “reused” the animation (like some of the other posters have claimed). I just think that it’s interesting to look for!
July 7th, 2007 at 8:07 am
bloody geeks. code code code. this isnt code for goodness sake. its bloody drawings. does disney need to cut back. are they running at a loss. helll no. contrary to what you may believe, the people drawing actually get paid. re using scenes DOES seem lazy. and it DOES decrease production quality. its like the difference between a VW and a Rolce Royce. the latter is hand made. and the former is mass produced. disney should be rolce royce. they shouldnt be cutting corners.
Sure, some may say “but we watch for the story” or some slinky shit like that. thats not the point. the point is that were being sold old shit. thats the bottom line. if you are there for just the story , then go read a damn book.
July 7th, 2007 at 8:14 am
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July 7th, 2007 at 8:58 am
I agree with joe hes absolutly right
July 7th, 2007 at 10:00 am
The 20 year old set is so quick to cite homage for the purpose of excusing lazy work. i.e. Wes Anderson ripping off himself and Buckaroo Banzai, Franny & Zooey, etc.
An homage is a supplment to a new idea, not a substitution
Don Bluth left Disney c. The Rescuers over Disney’s penny-pinching, laziness and things like this. Disney only knows how to do one thing; fInd a succesful formula and run it into the ground. The Rescuers was followed by movies that barely had a release and were barely missed “The Watcher in the Woods” “The Black Cauldron.”
Tron was a attempt to cash in on Star Wars and video games. The Black Hole was an attempt to cash in on sci-fi and reuse the entire plot of Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea. The result of this 2nd-handing was that Disney enjoyed a slipping reputation via a bunch of crappy me too films, resulting in a couple decades of duds.
…until the Little Mermaid, which was a fresh and succesful Disney movie that they then went and ripped off eleven times until again their movies all look alike again.
But hey, if every stolen idea is really an homage, why ever make an original movie again? Bottom feeders don’t seem to mind, and have no standards to upset or rankle.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:01 am
also, human thought costs nothing. You could do it right now… if you weren’t lighting up your bong.
July 7th, 2007 at 10:25 am
I’m amused/amazed at the deja-mation pointed out in this post…but should we really be surprised? Until Disney joined with Pixar, *none* of the stories or characters were original, just animated versions of borrowed tales. Even now, almost every story they produce is a cartoon version of the Joseph Campbell hero monomyth. There is truly nothing new under the sun.
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July 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Regardless of them reusing animation, you gotta admit it’s pretty darn smart
July 7th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
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July 7th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
This is a great example of psychological projection (or perhaps just how the internet makes many people idiots when they open up their browser). The post simply made an observation, and was completely neutral about it. Yet, if you had just looked at the comments here, you thought he must have written a very long article accusing Disney of being a bunch of cheapskate capitalist scumbags and how the best animators never use such deceiving tricks.
Interesting how some elements are the exact same shape, yet probably don’t need to be if just copying the animation, but I guess a good tree shape (3rd on after the jump) is also worth reusing while you’re there.
July 7th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
That does it. Someone is going to have to dedicate an entire website to finding these snippets of re-used animation including timecode and include a wiki section for others to post their discoveries.
It just wouldn’t be Teh Intarweb without one of those!
What really bugs me in animation are these:
1. Poor lip synch, possibly due to:
2. Not enough tweening
3. Lack of good shadows/ink and paint
The re-use of sequences is, like many said, just interesting. The effects could have been reduced with horizontal flipping or tighter editing. They were just betting on the fact that most people wouldn’t notice.
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