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Daniel Messias said
May 2, 2006 @ 5:24 am
Very interesting page; all animators know Disney reused large sequences of material on almost all of his films.
Trevor said
May 2, 2006 @ 11:30 pm
Thanks for this – it’s put together nicely. Those lazy bums
dj said
May 3, 2006 @ 2:07 am
of course they use the same animation sequence. they just change the artwork.. you don’t have to invent the wheel all the time..
Wilson Tan said
May 3, 2006 @ 2:15 am
that is so cool. how did you even think of that? i feel so cheated! thanks for pointing out the truth for us!
D. Doherty said
May 3, 2006 @ 3:36 am
If you look at movies like Disney’s “Jungle Book” you will see that quite a bit of the animation is simply flipped over and reused. A lot of the animation of the Elephants in this film are taken from the short subject “Goliath 2.” Almost the entire King Louie sequence, where the monkeys are trying to “steal?” Mowgl, is the same animation as the weasels trying to take the deed to Toad Hall in “Wind in the Wilows”.
coder2000 said
May 3, 2006 @ 6:29 am
Do you know how time consuming it is to hand draw a 1 hour movie? I’m sure reuse was common and not just at Disney but other traditional animation studios. Now, with the introduction of computers movies take less time and reuse is no longer needed to aid in reducing production times.
Arnofx3d said
May 4, 2006 @ 1:07 am
Hi there!
I just wanna say to “coder2000″ that I agree with him when he said “Do you know how time consuming it is to hand draw a 1 hour movie?”, but he’s wrong with “Now, with the introduction of computers movies take less time and reuse is no longer needed to aid in reducing production times”, because they do! In “Finding Nemo”, there is two sequences where Marlin is sad, & Dory said “There, there…”, they reused exactly the same animation, AND the same camera angle! (explained in the DVD’s extra features…) Perhaps they just reused the same render (only the character channel), which makes you win even more time (render time is a nightmare…). But the more powerful in 3D is that you can reuse an animation track on an another character, somtime very different from the original, or simply change the camera angle, or a cloth simulation, or whatever…
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JO said
May 4, 2006 @ 10:59 pm
I wouldn’t exactly call it reused animation.Reused is using the exact same drawings. In the examples above sure the poses and the timing and much of the compostion is the same but the comparible images are different.From the amour on the knight to the character itself it’s another drawing. Done by hand.
stylus said
May 9, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
That’s very interesting and thanks for pointing it out. ^_^
Regards ~
kkrishna said
May 11, 2006 @ 12:49 pm
I agree with Joe
waxapple said
May 12, 2006 @ 8:51 am
Very interesting site. Seems strange that so many people are getting upset by you posting this. I wasn’t aware that Disney did this and found it interesting. Sad that people are offended by this post.
Codboy said
May 18, 2006 @ 10:34 am
There is beef in both McTasty and BigMac… anybody wanna whine and cry about that too?
Cartoons are not about showing you something brand-new, it’s about entertaining you. If you feel entertained while watching a cartoon (mainly a childrens media) then: mission acomplished.
But all in all, nice spotting. Shows that somebody has a good eye. Although I don’t like over anal-yse fun stuff like cartoons I’ll admit that it takes some talent to notice that kind of stuff.
Sara said
May 19, 2006 @ 10:58 pm
Thank you for posting this here for us to see
At least I didn’t know =/ Never noticed it.
I’m surprised when I’m reading the comments, I mean, you were only showing us this and you never said that it was wrong to do this, only that Disney does…
victor throe said
May 23, 2006 @ 8:08 pm
wow. whilst i understand the philosophy of reusing animation, the logistics of locating and adapting existing drawings to fit your current project doesnt seem to be a time saver at all. the only example used which could be is the snow white dance, the others just dont seem to be worth it. the only benefit is you can use grunts to do it, but still, the homework has to be done.
either way, its sloppy
are there any more examples?
gravell said
May 26, 2006 @ 1:52 am
How much time did you invest in this bit of brilliance? Did you realize that they reuse actors in many different movies? I’ve seen the same locations in many different movies too. Wow, I feel so cheated. My entertainment value from these films is degraded forever. Please send me a refund (NOT Disney-YOU). [I enjoyed the films when I saw them-regardless of what Disney did, so it's you who've ruined the experience forever].
Is the world a better place now?
alphasqix said
May 26, 2006 @ 2:24 pm
Uh … I thought it was interesting.
I also think you maybe need to find some readers that eat more fiber …
reza_ali said
May 26, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
Very interesting. Old amiga fans should look here too :
http://www.kameli.net/nocopy/
Solario said
May 28, 2006 @ 6:09 am
Hey all just wanted to note that the animation was reused after Walt had passed away and the company had lost most of its creative juices. Milt Kahl, one of Walt’s nine old men, talks about this same thing in a lecture he gave at CALArts around 1976-79? You can download the lecture from http://www.sewardstreet.com/media/index.html
Should be able to see the headings as you scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
He points out that the company at this time was not intrested in animation and tried to use as many shortcuts as possible, the animators and even the directors were overuled. Anyways just thought I’d throw that out there before everyone starts thinking thats how all of Disney Films were done.
pumphouse said
June 6, 2006 @ 2:27 pm
Of course animation is reused. Disney is not the only one. Did you ever watch a Flintstone cartoon? or Scooby Doo? So what was the real point here?
Vicho Friedli said
June 7, 2006 @ 2:01 am
I can’t understand why you are so upset with this. After all, it takes some ingenuity to tweak your story (or scene) so that you can reuse some previous work (and get away with it).
To the person who said it is not done anymore, let me tell you it is still done on low budget projects. I’m working on a TV series now and we rely a lot on recicling. We wouldn’t be able to finish each chapter on time if we didn’t use work previously done.
Good work Hemmy.net! I can see you have a lot of time in your hands!
Hasham Gondal said
June 12, 2006 @ 7:10 am
very good very good
if it saves the time then ok reuse it
no problem
your work is always appreciateable
keep movin’
Boner said
June 15, 2006 @ 6:36 am
Dude! You have WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much time on your hands. Get a girlfriend or at the very least, a blowup doll. Oh wait, you’ve probably already got a few of those. Seriously, get a life!
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June 16, 2006 @ 8:31 am
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yepyep said
June 18, 2006 @ 6:18 am
I agree with “dudes”.
Benn said
July 10, 2006 @ 5:35 pm
they made new drawings…Ok, the base it’s the same..but is that bad?
I don’t think so.
stop cheating on Disney please.
Jaggy said
July 13, 2006 @ 8:43 pm
Hey YOU!!! Whats wrong in it? Seriously whats wrong? People who steal from others work are more in this fuckig World. But Disney, Disney, Dis… n..e.y., DISNEY>>> You dont worry. I am here to support You from all these braths.
We are going to take the World ahead tomorrow
(& I really dont expect a Hiring letter from Disney at all)
Surfer said
July 16, 2006 @ 7:02 am
All you judgemental simpletons need to keep your wack opinions to yourself. The page is very interesting, if you don’t like it, hit the back button.
Aggrees with Surfer said
July 29, 2006 @ 12:46 am
Surfer’s right. Stop thinking that the guy who made this doesn’t like Disney. He’s just pointing put something interesting.
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August 20, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
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adaptivereuse.net » Blog Archive » Looks familiar, sounds familiar said
August 30, 2006 @ 7:20 am
[...] But there are other ways to reuse imagery. Walt Disney has in fact developed a production method that involves the reuse of animation cells to cut production costs. [...]
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August 31, 2006 @ 9:07 pm
[...] But there are other ways to reuse imagery. Walt Disney has in fact developed a production method that involves the reuse of animation cells to cut production costs. [...]
Lisa said
October 29, 2006 @ 9:35 pm
I realized that Disney has been reusing it’s animation for a long time now, but usually it’s just a few frames! Recently I rented “The Wild” and half of the scenes look like they came from the Lion King and Brother Bear. It’s the same angles, same subjects (large adult lion getting trampled by a heard of wildabeasts and he saves his son by putting him in a tree.) And a lot of the “be prepared” song that Scar sings is in the movie too! It’s never been more obvious about the reused animation than in the movie The Wild! Over HALF of the movie was reused! Come to think of it, the other half probably was too, I just can’t remember every scene for every movie.
Alex said
November 12, 2006 @ 7:25 am
wow, disney rescues animation, who cares? lol, bottom line is its boring and sad to look up stuff like that and whats great, the films are amazing they rocked many genereations, and hes minted from it, and no matter how much complaining or how much very sad proof like this anyone comes up with, it dont means jak!
gd day xox
Dante Wyrmfoe said
December 18, 2006 @ 9:28 am
I just watched the Robin Hood DVD last night, surprisingly I didn’t catch the Show White reuse but I did notice that during the same scene, the animation and character designs for the band were recycled from The Aristocats (especially noticable during the closeup shots of the drummer)
I’m not saying it’s a bad or good thing but I do find it interesting.
Meagan said
December 25, 2006 @ 11:29 am
I don’t feel anyone was cheated, honestly I wonder if the people bitching have ever written code…anyway if Disney is using it in different movies, and it’s not obvious while you are watching the movie, there is no need to get bitchy (I don’t like using this word, but right now I’m tired and it works)
sarra said
January 19, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
hi my name is sarra and my opion on this website is that it is so cool!!! i think you should do more animatied films because they are becoming really popular!!!! for example cars!!!! lol
roo said
March 27, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
If you want to have some fun, run the ‘chase for the will’ scene in MR. TOAD and compare it with the chase in the monkey scene in JUNGLE BOOK –Mowgli ‘floats’ at one point since he once was a piece of paper….
And they reused some reeds from THE OLD MILL in ICHABOD.
It’s a business. They sometimes had financial troubles. and at least they reused from THEIR OWN pictures!
The pictures are either good or not good. WINNIE THE POOH was good. ROBIN HOOD was not good even though it reuseds scenes from SNOW WHITE. Copying goodness does not make you good.
Charles said
March 29, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Actually as someone else pointed out computer animation doesn’t mean that they don’t have similarities. For example in the “Lord of the rings” when they fight the cave troll in Moria. If you compare that sequence to how the troll in the girls bathroom (in the 1st Harry Potter movie) moves you will notice that they both move in a very similar way. Both characters were probably animated using the same software. Likewise in Disney’s “The rescuers down under” and “The Lion king” disney had sequences that used a few drawn animals as the models for a whole herd of animals (in stamped). It would have been too time consuming to draw each animal thousands of times to create the sequence otherwise. And there have been behind the scenes clips on tv that showed similar sequences (of Disney movies). One was of the fight that Tod gets into (Fox and the hound) vs. the fight that Bongo has with another bear (if my memory serves). Sometimes similar points occur in different movies and the animators draw on the work done before them as inspiration. It is an interesting topic though. Picking out sequences and relating them to other Disney films that you have seen before. Disney even uses Shakespeare in their movies. The “Lion King” is a good example. Plot: Uncle kills brother for the throne and tries to kill his nephew as well. That idea comes straight out of Hamlet though Simba is a bit more fortunate at the end than the prince of Denmark was.
Angela said
April 1, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
“Hard to spot”? Are you serious? The re-used sequences in The Sword in the Stone are so blatantly obvious that you could play a drinking game with it: take a shot every time some animation or a soundclip is unabashedly repeated.
Being an animator I’m aware how arduous the process is, so it doesn’t bother me at all, but the “hard to spot” comment was hilarious.
Greg M. Johnson said
April 14, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
There’s an old episode of the Animation Podcast which features an interview with one of the old-timers at Disney. He spoke of how they’d use anything, even old Disney movies, as the first rotoscope or motion-picture-storyboard. I had a new appreciation for the reasons behind this duplication when I heard that podcast.
crowded head space said
May 21, 2007 @ 9:51 am
very well put to gether… i always wondered if they reused frames…
every animator uses these techniques… hell i bet pixar uses a butt load of 3d models for more than one movie…
if you know how long it takes for some one to do this with out reusing it you would understand why they do it… this is not a new concept or even something that anyone cares about…
to bad sketch work is becoming obsolite … hell everyone is using 3d animation… even family guy uses 3d modeling… if you think im wrong go look it up before you say anything… trust me they use 3d animation…
thats right they are cheating and useing 3d
its part of animation just love it and get over it…
amir said
May 24, 2007 @ 12:46 am
i love this Sight.
jojopsy said
May 30, 2007 @ 1:23 am
That is interesting, never knew it.
I like seeing too.
Mike Kupfer said
June 16, 2007 @ 3:06 am
There are a lot more examples around the internet too. This is pretty cool though. I bet they reuse a lot more than you would think.
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DaveX said
July 6, 2007 @ 3:10 am
The dance sequences in Aristocats and Robin Hood are the same– check Maid Marion and the lady cat– same “groovy” moves, haha
Daryl said
July 6, 2007 @ 3:30 am
Why is everybody being so childish about this?
I thought this was a very interesting post, until I read the comment thread.
Not one post suggested Disney might be doing this as a stylistic technique or hommage to the classics?
I think it’s quite cool they reuse sequences.
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July 6, 2007 @ 4:10 am
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booger said
July 6, 2007 @ 4:15 am
You must have a lot of time on your hands
Giancarlo said
July 6, 2007 @ 4:34 am
That was interesting, proving that disney’s use of archetypes @ the time wasn’t limited only to concept designs but also the same animation.
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July 6, 2007 @ 4:45 am
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nick said
July 6, 2007 @ 4:55 am
Homage: a reference within a creative work to someone who greatly influenced the artist would be an homage. It is typically used to denote a reference in a work of art or literature to another, at least somewhat widely known, work. See In-joke for a somewhat similar meaning.
Sheesh.
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Kris said
July 6, 2007 @ 4:57 am
What people may not realize is that most Disney features were Rotoscoped,
eg FIRST an actor is filmed performing the motion, THEN an animator draws the characters on top of the live-action footage.
So in most cases it´s not so much about recycling animation as returning to the reference material.
That beeing said, the Robin Hood-dance sequence is a total patchwork – it referrences not only Snow White, but the Jungle Book too.
What I *don´t* understand is why some people appearently “feel cheated” by this. As long as the method gets the job done, cheating is not even an issue.
Eve Nisney said
July 6, 2007 @ 4:59 am
God dammit everything sucks!
JM said
July 6, 2007 @ 5:01 am
I worked in a traditional commercial animation studio for 5 years. This is a common practice in animation, it is a time and money saver. Hand drawn animation is expensive and back in those days Disney was still doing all production in the US and reusing less animation than places like Hanna-Barbera or Warner Brothers where re-use was more widespread.
Disney does this repetition even within their own movies – especially during the 70′s (i.e…robin hood).
Other places use repetition too. The Homer strangling Bart animation from almost every episode from The Simpsons is the exact same sequence every time.
It isn’t a big deal, but it is cool to see some examples head to head. Thanks for posting!
Ryan said
July 6, 2007 @ 5:05 am
No big deal I think. They had blocking which worked for one scene, why not use it again if it works.
Christopher Olsen said
July 6, 2007 @ 5:07 am
Are we really going to let ourselves feel cheated by this? Taking artwork from the form of a full creative composition and transposing it into feature-lenght animation will definitively reduce its technical originality, even if no two appaerant animated movements are ever identical.
Re-using the same basic structure of movement for two otherwise unrelated “shots” isn’t going to ruin the film for you unless you dwell on it. The effectiveness of the film is in its overall composition. As the author of this thread points out, these duplications are difficult to find unless you go scouring for them.
I have to admit, I remember as I got older that I noticed some of the duplications of carachter action in “The Sword In The Stone”. But they constitute a few moments out of a three-to-five minute scene.
Today, we use computer modeling and generation to mask the use of mechanical animation. It may look more fluid and alive on-screen, but the process invloves just as much technical duplication and quick re-hashing as in the old days. It sure helps things look better and feel more natural, but the overall creative process has not gotten any worse or better.
A lot of these compositions weren’t meant to be pieces in which technical execution was pushed to the painstaking point at which we marvel at the sight of it. Snow White might have been, but it was still a film whose overall goal was to be entertaining and rich throughout. Not to argue that it had the most gripping plot or most in-depth carachter development, but its achievement as a feature-length animated film was still something of a triumph. The fact that a few hundred frames of animation were reused hardly disqualifies it from that status, and it certainly doesn’t mean there is no creativity in the process of the animation.
Beyond that, using models from previous films (like as we see in Sword in the Stone, Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Winnie The Pooh) might have been a bit chincy, however; the actual model for making the carachter move in an appearantly fluid and natural way had obviously already been established 30 years earlier when they made Snow White. Disney had moved into churning out feature-length releases quickly and on low-budget at that point, but some of these pictures were still pretty fun to watch.
They had two choices: use the same model for making 2-dementional carachters appear to move realistically, or try to make up an altogether new way to do it.
Since they had limited time and budget to spend on being innovative, and since the model that had been used with Snow White still looked pretty realistic 30, 40 years later, why try to crack your skull over it? And if that’s the case, why not just use the same model, but even snatch some of the exact same movements created from that model and dress them up in new characters? Or, as in the case of some of the duplications from one movie to another released around the same time, just nail it once for the first picture and then use it again for the next one.
It’s cheap, yes. It’s not super innovative, but it’s effective. Some of those 60′s and 70′s Disney films are memorable for being less grandiose and overly-important in feel than the older ones, and for adopting a sense of more realistic characters in them.
Overall, I hardly consider this earth-shattering news. It’s just kind of “huh, that’s interesting”.
smithee said
July 6, 2007 @ 5:23 am
I love seeing this, it’s like a behind the scenes tour. Of course we know that they use many techniques to save time, but it’s rare to see it presented so clearly. It’s a good lesson for fledgling animators, thanks for the post!
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Mario said
July 6, 2007 @ 5:58 am
What’s so bad about reusing? Isn’t the complete IT world built on reusing components and code? DLLs, web services, object classes, etc.
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July 6, 2007 @ 6:04 am
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July 6, 2007 @ 6:07 am
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Evan Rappaport said
July 6, 2007 @ 6:19 am
I assume that what prompted this set of posts was just the realization that even animators at the top of the game use shortcuts in their work. This is mildly interesting, but more interestingly is the copyright implications of this. As most people know, nothing is created in a vacuum. Reuse of old animation (intellectual property) to create new animation is an admission of this. It is interesting to see that a company that fought so hard to extend copyright (see. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act) itself realizes the value of using existing work to create new works. Maybe Disney animators might benefit from the work of other animators if some of that intellectual property moved into the public domain?
Edwin Reitstein said
July 6, 2007 @ 6:24 am
Awesome post. Oh, such jaded people! “We knew this already.” “All animators know this!” I’d venture to bet that for most people this is a huge revelation. I’m not a complete film naif, but I didn’t know this. As for moral complications, I could care less. It’s just interesting to me.
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kyallis said
July 6, 2007 @ 7:31 am
I’m suprised people never realized animators reuse scenes.
You know they reuse voice actors too!! :O
Robert said
July 6, 2007 @ 7:50 am
You missed the ones from Japan. Well, technically they didn’t “re-use” these. Stole is a more appropriate term.
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liquid06 said
July 6, 2007 @ 8:50 am
Wow, I knew there was something creepy familiar. I just never put my finger on it.
Thanks for the screenshots!
Julian said
July 6, 2007 @ 8:52 am
Wow, whats with the over reacting!
OMG! U WINGEY BSTARD DONT U KNOW DISNEY IS TEH ROXXOR?
WHO CARES IF THEY RE-USE SCENES THEY ARE DA BOMB!
I think whomever put the post up in the first place just found it interesting and wanted to demonstrate it.
Oh and in regards to Jo who posted fairly early on
“I wouldn’t exactly call it reused animation.Reused is using the exact same drawings. In the examples above sure the poses and the timing and much of the compostion is the same but the comparible images are different.From the amour on the knight to the character itself it’s another drawing. Done by hand.”
Clearly the night is the same cell with some changes made. Remember that they’d usually make up an outline first (no colour etc) then go over it with colour and adding other details. Given that the arm is in the exact same position with the same lines on the elbow etc, I’d say they’ve used an identical outline, then just touched it up a bit.
boliyou said
July 6, 2007 @ 9:21 am
Cool comparisons. I wouldn’t have caught them, myself.
I’m surprised you didn’t catch the complete recycling of a snippet, used twice in Robin Hood: the characters are singing a song mocking the sheriff, and the little bunny children start laughing and falling over. The exact same snippet is used in another place in the same movie. Not even the background scenery changes.
I agree with smithee, it’s like a backstage tour. Thanks!
yotta said
July 6, 2007 @ 9:24 am
While everybody is second guessing, I wonder if Disney would have changed the way they did things if they had known that some day everyone would have his own deconstructible copy?
Dan said
July 6, 2007 @ 10:29 am
There is a shot in the Black Cauldron of Taran walking through the forest that is re-used from a shot of Wart walking through the Forest to retrieve Kay’s arrow.
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viince said
July 6, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
that’s amazing and a bit surreal!
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Zach said
July 6, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
I thought this was interesting. Thanks for posting it.
(I’m sorry that some of the other comments have been so hostile.)
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Thena said
July 7, 2007 @ 12:55 am
Snow White was done largely by roto-scoping.. so they probably just used that old footage and scoped it again.
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Ailene said
July 7, 2007 @ 7:06 am
I’ve noticed that before, but not in the ones that you mentioned. I noticed similarities between Robin Hood and the Aristocats. Watch the dance routine in Robin Hood where they are singing about Prince John the phony king of England… then watch the dance routine in the Aristocats with Scat Cat and his gang singin “Everybody Wants To Be A Cat.” There is especially a lot of similarities between Maid Marian and Duchess.
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Ailene said
July 7, 2007 @ 7:35 am
Oh, and I don’t think it “ruins it” that they “reused” the animation (like some of the other posters have claimed). I just think that it’s interesting to look for!
yugimoto2005 said
July 7, 2007 @ 8:07 am
bloody geeks. code code code. this isnt code for goodness sake. its bloody drawings. does disney need to cut back. are they running at a loss. helll no. contrary to what you may believe, the people drawing actually get paid. re using scenes DOES seem lazy. and it DOES decrease production quality. its like the difference between a VW and a Rolce Royce. the latter is hand made. and the former is mass produced. disney should be rolce royce. they shouldnt be cutting corners.
Sure, some may say “but we watch for the story” or some slinky shit like that. thats not the point. the point is that were being sold old shit. thats the bottom line. if you are there for just the story , then go read a damn book.
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July 7, 2007 @ 8:14 am
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steph said
July 7, 2007 @ 8:58 am
I agree with joe hes absolutly right
Jasper von Blowhole said
July 7, 2007 @ 10:00 am
The 20 year old set is so quick to cite homage for the purpose of excusing lazy work. i.e. Wes Anderson ripping off himself and Buckaroo Banzai, Franny & Zooey, etc.
An homage is a supplment to a new idea, not a substitution
Don Bluth left Disney c. The Rescuers over Disney’s penny-pinching, laziness and things like this. Disney only knows how to do one thing; fInd a succesful formula and run it into the ground. The Rescuers was followed by movies that barely had a release and were barely missed “The Watcher in the Woods” “The Black Cauldron.”
Tron was a attempt to cash in on Star Wars and video games. The Black Hole was an attempt to cash in on sci-fi and reuse the entire plot of Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea. The result of this 2nd-handing was that Disney enjoyed a slipping reputation via a bunch of crappy me too films, resulting in a couple decades of duds.
…until the Little Mermaid, which was a fresh and succesful Disney movie that they then went and ripped off eleven times until again their movies all look alike again.
But hey, if every stolen idea is really an homage, why ever make an original movie again? Bottom feeders don’t seem to mind, and have no standards to upset or rankle.
Jasper von Blowhole said
July 7, 2007 @ 10:01 am
also, human thought costs nothing. You could do it right now… if you weren’t lighting up your bong.
Mama K said
July 7, 2007 @ 10:25 am
I’m amused/amazed at the deja-mation pointed out in this post…but should we really be surprised? Until Disney joined with Pixar, *none* of the stories or characters were original, just animated versions of borrowed tales. Even now, almost every story they produce is a cartoon version of the Joseph Campbell hero monomyth. There is truly nothing new under the sun.
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July 7, 2007 @ 10:53 am
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Nicholas said
July 7, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Regardless of them reusing animation, you gotta admit it’s pretty darn smart
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July 7, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
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Justin Bell said
July 7, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
This is a great example of psychological projection (or perhaps just how the internet makes many people idiots when they open up their browser). The post simply made an observation, and was completely neutral about it. Yet, if you had just looked at the comments here, you thought he must have written a very long article accusing Disney of being a bunch of cheapskate capitalist scumbags and how the best animators never use such deceiving tricks.
Interesting how some elements are the exact same shape, yet probably don’t need to be if just copying the animation, but I guess a good tree shape (3rd on after the jump) is also worth reusing while you’re there.
connectionfailure said
July 7, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
That does it. Someone is going to have to dedicate an entire website to finding these snippets of re-used animation including timecode and include a wiki section for others to post their discoveries.
It just wouldn’t be Teh Intarweb without one of those!
What really bugs me in animation are these:
1. Poor lip synch, possibly due to:
2. Not enough tweening
3. Lack of good shadows/ink and paint
The re-use of sequences is, like many said, just interesting. The effects could have been reduced with horizontal flipping or tighter editing. They were just betting on the fact that most people wouldn’t notice.
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Slippy Lane said
July 8, 2007 @ 3:54 am
Brilliant stuff. So Disney established the concept that has evolved into what we now know as reusable code.
I don’t know what some people are getting het up about it for – it’s efficient. If somebody hadn’t gone through and made all the comparisons, you’d never have noticed the difference. Imagine if Jungle Book had had to be cut short because they didn’t have the time or money to complete it? Let’s face it – for their time, these were ALL amazing feats of achievement, and the fact that they are still as popular today as they ever were shows how well Disney’s animation techniques worked.
My two penn’orth,
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July 8, 2007 @ 8:43 am
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AC said
July 8, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
This movie copying bears the hallmarks of an Al Qaeda operation.
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July 9, 2007 @ 4:21 am
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Ant said
July 9, 2007 @ 4:42 am
There are more here: http://aqfl.net/?q=node/3519
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anomalous4 said
July 9, 2007 @ 5:26 am
Y’know what they say: if you gotta steal, steal from the best.
(How do you think Handel finished “Messiah” in something like 2-1/2 weeks? He was one of the all-time great recyclers of his own stuff, that’s how.)
But seriously………. while recycling animation artwork wasn’t a time-saver in the completely hand-drawn “good old days,” I can see how the ability to build new characters and scenes based on archived wireframes might be. But how would I know – I’m just that overgrown kid up in the front row of the balcony, saying to my friends: “HOW DID THEY DO THAT???!!!!!”
Just my two brass farthings’ worth. Now, back to our regularly scheduled cartoon classic already in progress. Hey, I snuck a couple of boxes of Sno-Caps in, want some? I’m not about to fight you for the Jujyfruits, though…………
anomalous4 said
July 9, 2007 @ 5:36 am
Oops, I meant 3-1/2 weeks. Wotthe7734, it still freaks me out………..
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July 9, 2007 @ 8:19 am
Disney se recicla…
GalerÃa de imagenes de Disney donde sedemuestra que la principal industria deanimación del mundo también se recicla….
BUD said
July 9, 2007 @ 8:48 am
Now, someone catablog the reused shots of Jack Webb nodding to Henry Morgan in the late sixties Dragnet.
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July 9, 2007 @ 12:21 pm
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July 9, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
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Madfish said
July 9, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Disney’s characters are not inteded to be originals, they are all stereotypes. The storylines follow expected paths. We all find comfort in the familiar – we are grownups reliving our childhoods. Kids enjoy repetition.
I draw and animate a bit (paper and 3D) and yeah, if you have a good tree, sinister figure, loyal side kick, etc. they do tend to look alike. Tho’ if it’s your personal style, fine. Company style – well it’s a living.
GZ said
July 9, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Rotoscope.
They had footage of people laying about taken for the express purpose of tracing it for the most realistic motion with the least amount of work.
They really should have taken more liberties with the exact movements as opposed to pure tracing…
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jeremy said
July 9, 2007 @ 10:18 pm
Wow, this whole time I had no idea. To think they were looked upon as masters of animation. Thank god for computers nowadays eh?
I say if it fits, why not use it. There’s only so many poses that work after all.
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Evan said
July 13, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
This is very interesting. Very interesting indeed.
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July 14, 2007 @ 12:57 am
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Patrick said
July 14, 2007 @ 10:10 am
I noticed the similarities between Robin Hood and The Aristocats in the dance sequences. A lot of the characters in both were dressed almost alike, and the moves were exactly alike. Also, when Robin looks into Maid Marian’s eyes, her eyes get the same expression Duchess did in Aristocats.
Another sequence that has been used rather frequently: The rain sequence. The same rainstorm seen in The Old Mill was used in at least two other films: Bambi, and Dumbo.
Something else I just remembered: Arthur (“Wart”) from Sword and the Stone and Taran from The Black Cauldron had the same lanky, scrawny bodies. The facial features are almost the same as well.
Debbie Gold said
July 14, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Disney has been making awesome movies forever. I don’t care one iota if they borrow some cells from previous movies to make new movies. Makes a lot of sense to me. Doesn’t change the storylines. They’re not stealing anyone else’s work. They’re just being efficient. If only the U.S. government could figure out how to be as efficient.
sean said
July 16, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
the fact in most of these examples is that Disney are reusing the same jokes and emotional apealing sequences. In these sequences they’re not just reusing movements that’s not big deal for the story like if one character is mounting on a horse for example, they’re making you laugh or cry of the same thing you previously saw. why? because it worked first time. I’m sorry Disney fans, it sucks, it’s a lazy work.
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Tawm said
August 2, 2007 @ 11:03 am
Hey, whatever works. I’ve recycled sections of school papers I’ve written. I don’t see why they shouldn’t do the same.
Almo said
August 7, 2007 @ 6:53 am
Well, the copies are in their later (cheaper) films.
Lexx said
August 10, 2007 @ 4:21 am
Actually… I worked with Disney and Warner doing freelance post production for a lot of animated films and cartoons etc… one of the BIGGEST reasons that new characters are designed similarly to older characters is to create familiarity in the characters. Even though sometimes these scenes look like they were just TAKEN from older movies… that isn’t the case.
Oftentimes… even when the animation is done ENTIRELY fresh… the animators are told to copy the styles and character-forms from older movies. They’ll update the image of the character, but they’ll copy the MOVEMENT STYLE and CHARACTERISTICS from a popular movies almost exactly to make the characters more recognizable… and more likable. It works the same way that subliminal messages work… the repetition makes you comfortable with what you’re seeing… so that your subconscious mind has fond regard for the film and its characters even before you’ve seen it. So budget cuts and time constraints may have some influence in the similarities in these characters… but ultimately… it’s just the most elaborate and effective marketing scheme in cinematic history.
Even when a character is completely new and never used before, the backdrop will contain recognizable elements to instill the same type of mental comfort Also, Disney is one of the original companies to use color combinations (and contrasts) and shape designs to invoke a wanted subliminal reaction. They’ve put a lot of time and effort into such studies, and have been very successful with it. This way, when they want a character to appear villainous… they use color combinations and subliminal designs that incite a negative reaction in your subconscious mind… causing you to actually feel hate for that character… and the opposite for protagonistic characters. Take for example Iaggo… the parrot from Aladdin. When he was an antagonist, his design and color situations were negatively effective, but when he became a protagonist, even though his character didn’t actually change at all, suddenly you begin to like him. It’s no simple change of heart… you were visually manipulated to feel the desired emotion for the character at the appropriate times. It’s really quite brilliant.
Ed said
August 16, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Disney did NOT rotoscope! They did use filmed references, but actual rotoscoping is horrible to watch. See if you can find Baski’s “Lord of the Ring” film or Flecher’s “Gulliver” film (a big rarity). Gulliver and most of the characters in LOTR were rotoscoped. The characters look so bad it’s incredible.
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September 10, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
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VagabondoDigitale said
September 25, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Great scoop !
Jasper von Blowhole said
October 6, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
SlippyLane Said: “Brilliant stuff. So Disney established the concept that has evolved into what we now know as reusable code.”
No dummy, Eli Whitney developed something called “interchangeabe parts” around 1798 and Henry Ford supplemented/potentiated that idea with “the assembly line” around 1913. Isn’t that fascinating? Some important things happened before you were born.
Ever pick up a book, Slippy?
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jaderocks13 said
November 27, 2007 @ 9:37 am
man i never knew that so many disney cartoons were so much alike….no wonder they r falytails……..i guess….. but its stull kewl:)
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Kula bácsi said
December 1, 2007 @ 12:08 am
Disney is a fuckin piece of shite.
Daniel said
December 3, 2007 @ 12:06 am
I couldn’t understand some parts of this article Animation Reuse, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.
MIM said
December 19, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
Really nice article!
Btw it’s not a bad thing! as you see it works for em! you just noticed it after many years!
Anyway nice trick mr.Walt!
,mim
Karolina Mañay said
January 10, 2008 @ 5:44 am
lo que pasas esque nesesito unos dibujos super cheveres para mi hijo que tiene un año con dos y nesesito hacer cosas super cheveres
ski said
February 1, 2008 @ 4:04 am
love the way you have put that together. i never noticed how similar all the films look but when you put them togehter like that i suppose you can tell
Meira said
April 28, 2008 @ 7:10 am
Also, not mentioned here, is the young Rabbit girl in Robin Hood. When in Maid Marian’s garden she is laughing so hard at her brother being kissed that she slides down a tree trunk and then sighs and it fades out. Exactly the same slide, laugh, sigh and fade is seen again, same character, at the archery tournament.
NaiNai said
May 13, 2008 @ 2:59 am
It’s not http://www.hemmy.net that needs to get a life, it’s all you guys that are whinning. I found this site quite interesting, just as I do with facts & trivia sites. It makes a lot more sense to re-use scenes! As Hemmy said ”
Disney reuses its animation but this is hard to spot unless pictures are put side by side for comparison.”
It’s not like you noticed the similarities when you where watching the movies! So suck it up & deal with it!
And if anyone has a problem with what I said then Aol Instant Message me at spikesbabybo!
Hello said
June 8, 2008 @ 12:31 am
I thought it was really interesting actally
thanks
Ketiskiwa said
June 21, 2008 @ 12:27 am
Frankly, why would one care if Disney reuses animated scenes? Disney is hardly alone in this, and if you’re looking for the wrong in a film, you’re going to find it.
Si-chan said
August 1, 2008 @ 8:48 am
Interesting and hilarious. In all honesty, when I was younger I always thought a lot of the Disney films had similar scenes. I guess my subconscious remembered seeing the sequences twice. Either way, I don’t blame them. Art takes a lot of work; why continue to recreate your same pictures when you can easily use the same thing more than once and still get the same effect you want?
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August 19, 2008 @ 3:39 am
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freiheit said
September 11, 2008 @ 4:34 am
accually…snow white and her prince were traced of from real actors which they filmed and THEN animated into cartoons. They probably have a huge bank of video references…which is why sometimes you’ll have similar scenes; why waist more money just to get the same scene in a different angle if it’s not nessessary right? I’ve seen this in other films, sometimes totally different studios (like naruto and cowboy beebop) which leads me to beleve you can also purchase video references and bit like you cana buy stock photos.
anyway… it’s always funny to see.
siddharaj said
September 23, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
On similar lines,
i spotted a similar scene in The Incredibles and ratatouille.
The Incredbles: Mr Incredible lifts up the car.
Ratatouille: The rat lifts up the bottle.
In both the scenes, the characters are shown doing the exact same action.
Blake said
October 6, 2008 @ 1:03 pm
Wow I am so amazed at how little people know of the animation process. This post is definitely a major insult to the 9 old men, who you probably won’t know either.
who cares said
October 9, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
I see the similarities but to me it just looks like they use some sort of template for certain actions and poses. In order to knock out these huge productions in a short amount of time it seems like a logical choice, plus it would give their movies a distinguishing look.
Sage said
October 10, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
I don’t know why anyone should feel cheated. Sure it’s nice to have a team of highly skilled people and do unique animation but if you can reuse without being obvious then why not save a couple of bucks? It’s just a method that’s used from time to time.
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About to drop it said
December 15, 2008 @ 8:14 am
I just want this to go on record. You dozens of idiots making negative comments about this are the ones with all the free time. This just showed you something new, and you closed your eyes and started insulting. You are bad people. You don’t deserve to watch Disney movies.
All the excuses you give as to why you feel it necessary to insult the blog author show how stupid you really are. If it was common knowledge that the animation is reused, then WHY EVEN COMMENT! 90% of you think you just got raped by this blog post. Chill the fuck out. Disney did this to you. If you’re so dumb that you didn’t see it yourself, you don’t need to insult the person that pointed it out. And if there’s nothing wrong with reusing animation in your lying mind, then why are you insulting someone for reusing CELLS?
UnknownMan said
December 19, 2008 @ 2:26 am
Sage ” why not save a couple of bucks? ”
The fact that there a multi million dollar company, means nothing? The fact that they make millions of profits a year? I think they could have gone more creative and done different shots…
otis said
February 9, 2009 @ 3:44 am
they even recycle the same damn story over and over
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Amanda said
February 22, 2009 @ 1:42 pm
Honestly? Guys chill out.
No one said there was anything wrong with Disney doing this, and there’s not. That doesn’t say, however, that this isn’t interesting. You don’t really think about this stuff when you watch these movies, but when put side by side it’s really interesting to look at.
This is an awesome post. I liked it a lot.
Good job.
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Nstone said
March 1, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
I went looking for a page like this because we just bought Snow white, Jungle Book, and Robin Hood. After watching them over and over again for the last two week. (my daughter can’t get enough) I started to see similarity between them.
I saw the snow white and maid Marian, and then I saw a Aristocats and Maid Marian dancing match. A jungle book – Balou and King loui v.s. Robin Hood – Little John and Pluckley dance match. I thought I was fun now I’m always looking, like it’s a game. lol.
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amelia said
April 7, 2009 @ 9:29 am
lol who knew this would be such a controversial subject.
ana hahn said
April 15, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
All seem fair puns of previous flick, except the last shot… which is surprisingly of a quite low quality, just like of a Saturday morning cartoon!
Darth Lightning said
April 21, 2009 @ 6:26 pm
Almost all of you here talk like stupid bastards!!! You do that! Create better stuff yourselves, consume lots of hours of your precious time, without criticizing others!
The value of a movie, game, creation resides in the story, the message it transmits, not in some pure mechanics! But I suppose you never learn from your fuckin’ history, do you dickheads???
Excuse Mein said
May 2, 2009 @ 11:08 pm
HAHA! Thats what critics do! They don’t go out and make better stuff! They bitch about movies and tell people whether or not to see them!
Krista said
June 7, 2009 @ 9:58 am
I don’t understand the complaints. This is genius in my opinion. Disney really tapped into a formula that I never thought much about before. Kids love familiarity so even if it’s not the same characters the movements and dances are familiar.
I understand how flipping hard it is to animate something believably and fluidly. Once you get it right it’s only understandable that you’d want to not go through the whole process again. And that they did it so well that even after you point it out it still doesn’t feel rehashed is damned impressive.
Gurpreet said
June 17, 2009 @ 9:57 pm
After seeing that reused animations I wonder why and how do they do so – I meen it looks exactly the same.
mamaslollipop said
July 28, 2009 @ 11:42 pm
Christopher Robin has a better butt.
Grumpy Larry said
August 26, 2009 @ 1:37 am
Don’t mess with what works!
someone said
September 9, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
to the person…..who pointed out similar movements between Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter….if you knew anything about 3d…you’d realize that’s just talent on both animators parts on the sequences….
It doesn’t matter if they’re using 3d Max or Maya….either one….if it isn’t rigged right…it’s not going to move right…then you need someone who can actually animate it….and trust me that isn’t so simple….even in 3d.
and being an animator for 2d and 3d…..I can understand the concept of reusing…. It is A LOT of work….
It takes hours upon hours….just to render out 3 seconds of animation…..evil Maya….
Christina said
December 23, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
Disney’s always been very honest about this. if anyone out there has the special edition of Beauty and the Beast, during some of the commentary (or it might be part of the special features on the second disk…) the lead animator/director says that the ending sequence of Belle and the Beast (now the Prince) dancing right before the credits was used from stock animation from Sleeping Beauty of Aurora and Prince Charming dancing. its not a secret, don’t feel cheated, its common for animation studios to do this
John said
September 2, 2010 @ 10:13 pm
You realize that most of the animators who made all of these films were the same people (and thus had their own animation templates)… not sure why anyone would criticize someone for making templates for animation since that is what you are taught to do in the first place.
Do you honestly think that when people create animation that they aren’t loops of the same sequences over and over? You really think that they hand draw each sequence over and over without any sort of guideline?
M said
November 14, 2010 @ 1:25 am
At least the animation parts aren’t stolen from other companies! =)
Taylor Kerekes said
June 19, 2011 @ 1:44 am
So Disney stole from themselves?
Dan said
September 14, 2011 @ 12:17 am
Each frame used in these films are hand-painted. Not just drawn by hand, but HAND-painted, people! It took years making these films.
Disney verändert « Schokokäse said
November 26, 2011 @ 6:04 am
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