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Disney reuses its animation but this is hard to spot unless pictures are put side by side for comparison. Here are pairs of pictures to be spotted for animation reuse. 24 more pics after the jump.
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July 8th, 2007 at 3:54 am
Brilliant stuff. So Disney established the concept that has evolved into what we now know as reusable code.
I don’t know what some people are getting het up about it for - it’s efficient. If somebody hadn’t gone through and made all the comparisons, you’d never have noticed the difference. Imagine if Jungle Book had had to be cut short because they didn’t have the time or money to complete it? Let’s face it - for their time, these were ALL amazing feats of achievement, and the fact that they are still as popular today as they ever were shows how well Disney’s animation techniques worked.
My two penn’orth,
July 8th, 2007 at 8:43 am
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July 8th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
This movie copying bears the hallmarks of an Al Qaeda operation.
July 9th, 2007 at 4:21 am
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July 9th, 2007 at 4:42 am
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July 9th, 2007 at 5:21 am
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July 9th, 2007 at 5:26 am
Y’know what they say: if you gotta steal, steal from the best.
(How do you think Handel finished “Messiah” in something like 2-1/2 weeks? He was one of the all-time great recyclers of his own stuff, that’s how.)
But seriously………. while recycling animation artwork wasn’t a time-saver in the completely hand-drawn “good old days,” I can see how the ability to build new characters and scenes based on archived wireframes might be. But how would I know - I’m just that overgrown kid up in the front row of the balcony, saying to my friends: “HOW DID THEY DO THAT???!!!!!”
Just my two brass farthings’ worth. Now, back to our regularly scheduled cartoon classic already in progress. Hey, I snuck a couple of boxes of Sno-Caps in, want some? I’m not about to fight you for the Jujyfruits, though…………
July 9th, 2007 at 5:36 am
Oops, I meant 3-1/2 weeks. Wotthe7734, it still freaks me out………..
July 9th, 2007 at 8:19 am
Disney se recicla…
GalerÃa de imagenes de Disney donde sedemuestra que la principal industria deanimación del mundo también se recicla….
July 9th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Now, someone catablog the reused shots of Jack Webb nodding to Henry Morgan in the late sixties Dragnet.
July 9th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
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July 9th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
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July 9th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Disney’s characters are not inteded to be originals, they are all stereotypes. The storylines follow expected paths. We all find comfort in the familiar - we are grownups reliving our childhoods. Kids enjoy repetition.
I draw and animate a bit (paper and 3D) and yeah, if you have a good tree, sinister figure, loyal side kick, etc. they do tend to look alike. Tho’ if it’s your personal style, fine. Company style - well it’s a living.
July 9th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Rotoscope.
They had footage of people laying about taken for the express purpose of tracing it for the most realistic motion with the least amount of work.
They really should have taken more liberties with the exact movements as opposed to pure tracing…
July 9th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
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July 9th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Wow, this whole time I had no idea. To think they were looked upon as masters of animation. Thank god for computers nowadays eh?
I say if it fits, why not use it. There’s only so many poses that work after all.
July 10th, 2007 at 12:21 am
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July 11th, 2007 at 3:31 am
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July 11th, 2007 at 3:38 am
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July 11th, 2007 at 3:44 am
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July 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
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July 13th, 2007 at 3:58 am
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July 13th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
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July 13th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
This is very interesting. Very interesting indeed.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:57 am
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July 14th, 2007 at 10:10 am
I noticed the similarities between Robin Hood and The Aristocats in the dance sequences. A lot of the characters in both were dressed almost alike, and the moves were exactly alike. Also, when Robin looks into Maid Marian’s eyes, her eyes get the same expression Duchess did in Aristocats.
Another sequence that has been used rather frequently: The rain sequence. The same rainstorm seen in The Old Mill was used in at least two other films: Bambi, and Dumbo.
Something else I just remembered: Arthur (”Wart”) from Sword and the Stone and Taran from The Black Cauldron had the same lanky, scrawny bodies. The facial features are almost the same as well.
July 14th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
Disney has been making awesome movies forever. I don’t care one iota if they borrow some cells from previous movies to make new movies. Makes a lot of sense to me. Doesn’t change the storylines. They’re not stealing anyone else’s work. They’re just being efficient. If only the U.S. government could figure out how to be as efficient.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
the fact in most of these examples is that Disney are reusing the same jokes and emotional apealing sequences. In these sequences they’re not just reusing movements that’s not big deal for the story like if one character is mounting on a horse for example, they’re making you laugh or cry of the same thing you previously saw. why? because it worked first time. I’m sorry Disney fans, it sucks, it’s a lazy work.
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August 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 am
Hey, whatever works. I’ve recycled sections of school papers I’ve written. I don’t see why they shouldn’t do the same.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:53 am
Well, the copies are in their later (cheaper) films.
August 10th, 2007 at 4:21 am
Actually… I worked with Disney and Warner doing freelance post production for a lot of animated films and cartoons etc… one of the BIGGEST reasons that new characters are designed similarly to older characters is to create familiarity in the characters. Even though sometimes these scenes look like they were just TAKEN from older movies… that isn’t the case.
Oftentimes… even when the animation is done ENTIRELY fresh… the animators are told to copy the styles and character-forms from older movies. They’ll update the image of the character, but they’ll copy the MOVEMENT STYLE and CHARACTERISTICS from a popular movies almost exactly to make the characters more recognizable… and more likable. It works the same way that subliminal messages work… the repetition makes you comfortable with what you’re seeing… so that your subconscious mind has fond regard for the film and its characters even before you’ve seen it. So budget cuts and time constraints may have some influence in the similarities in these characters… but ultimately… it’s just the most elaborate and effective marketing scheme in cinematic history.
Even when a character is completely new and never used before, the backdrop will contain recognizable elements to instill the same type of mental comfort Also, Disney is one of the original companies to use color combinations (and contrasts) and shape designs to invoke a wanted subliminal reaction. They’ve put a lot of time and effort into such studies, and have been very successful with it. This way, when they want a character to appear villainous… they use color combinations and subliminal designs that incite a negative reaction in your subconscious mind… causing you to actually feel hate for that character… and the opposite for protagonistic characters. Take for example Iaggo… the parrot from Aladdin. When he was an antagonist, his design and color situations were negatively effective, but when he became a protagonist, even though his character didn’t actually change at all, suddenly you begin to like him. It’s no simple change of heart… you were visually manipulated to feel the desired emotion for the character at the appropriate times. It’s really quite brilliant.
August 16th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Disney did NOT rotoscope! They did use filmed references, but actual rotoscoping is horrible to watch. See if you can find Baski’s “Lord of the Ring” film or Flecher’s “Gulliver” film (a big rarity). Gulliver and most of the characters in LOTR were rotoscoped. The characters look so bad it’s incredible.
August 25th, 2007 at 10:23 am
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September 9th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
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September 10th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Los Imposibles VS los Superglobetrotters…
Estas series eran un gusto verlas, de hecho me gustaba bastante Fluidhombre y el Freddie “Curly” Neal de los globetrotters, pero nunca me habÃa dado cuenta de que las series eran una copia la una (los Imposibles) de la otra (los Superglob…
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September 25th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Great scoop !
October 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
SlippyLane Said: “Brilliant stuff. So Disney established the concept that has evolved into what we now know as reusable code.”
No dummy, Eli Whitney developed something called “interchangeabe parts” around 1798 and Henry Ford supplemented/potentiated that idea with “the assembly line” around 1913. Isn’t that fascinating? Some important things happened before you were born.
Ever pick up a book, Slippy?
October 6th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
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November 27th, 2007 at 9:37 am
man i never knew that so many disney cartoons were so much alike….no wonder they r falytails……..i guess….. but its stull kewl:)
November 30th, 2007 at 8:29 am
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December 1st, 2007 at 12:08 am
Disney is a fuckin piece of shite.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 am
I couldn’t understand some parts of this article Animation Reuse, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Really nice article!
Btw it’s not a bad thing! as you see it works for em! you just noticed it after many years!
Anyway nice trick mr.Walt!
,mim
January 10th, 2008 at 5:44 am
lo que pasas esque nesesito unos dibujos super cheveres para mi hijo que tiene un año con dos y nesesito hacer cosas super cheveres
February 1st, 2008 at 4:04 am
love the way you have put that together. i never noticed how similar all the films look but when you put them togehter like that i suppose you can tell
April 28th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Also, not mentioned here, is the young Rabbit girl in Robin Hood. When in Maid Marian’s garden she is laughing so hard at her brother being kissed that she slides down a tree trunk and then sighs and it fades out. Exactly the same slide, laugh, sigh and fade is seen again, same character, at the archery tournament.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:59 am
It’s not http://www.hemmy.net that needs to get a life, it’s all you guys that are whinning. I found this site quite interesting, just as I do with facts & trivia sites. It makes a lot more sense to re-use scenes! As Hemmy said ”
Disney reuses its animation but this is hard to spot unless pictures are put side by side for comparison.”
It’s not like you noticed the similarities when you where watching the movies! So suck it up & deal with it!
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June 8th, 2008 at 12:31 am
I thought it was really interesting actally
thanks
June 21st, 2008 at 12:27 am
Frankly, why would one care if Disney reuses animated scenes? Disney is hardly alone in this, and if you’re looking for the wrong in a film, you’re going to find it.
August 1st, 2008 at 8:48 am
Interesting and hilarious. In all honesty, when I was younger I always thought a lot of the Disney films had similar scenes. I guess my subconscious remembered seeing the sequences twice. Either way, I don’t blame them. Art takes a lot of work; why continue to recreate your same pictures when you can easily use the same thing more than once and still get the same effect you want?
August 19th, 2008 at 3:39 am
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September 11th, 2008 at 4:34 am
accually…snow white and her prince were traced of from real actors which they filmed and THEN animated into cartoons. They probably have a huge bank of video references…which is why sometimes you’ll have similar scenes; why waist more money just to get the same scene in a different angle if it’s not nessessary right? I’ve seen this in other films, sometimes totally different studios (like naruto and cowboy beebop) which leads me to beleve you can also purchase video references and bit like you cana buy stock photos.
anyway… it’s always funny to see.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:28 pm
On similar lines,
i spotted a similar scene in The Incredibles and ratatouille.
The Incredbles: Mr Incredible lifts up the car.
Ratatouille: The rat lifts up the bottle.
In both the scenes, the characters are shown doing the exact same action.
October 6th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Wow I am so amazed at how little people know of the animation process. This post is definitely a major insult to the 9 old men, who you probably won’t know either.
October 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I see the similarities but to me it just looks like they use some sort of template for certain actions and poses. In order to knock out these huge productions in a short amount of time it seems like a logical choice, plus it would give their movies a distinguishing look.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I don’t know why anyone should feel cheated. Sure it’s nice to have a team of highly skilled people and do unique animation but if you can reuse without being obvious then why not save a couple of bucks? It’s just a method that’s used from time to time.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
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December 15th, 2008 at 8:14 am
I just want this to go on record. You dozens of idiots making negative comments about this are the ones with all the free time. This just showed you something new, and you closed your eyes and started insulting. You are bad people. You don’t deserve to watch Disney movies.
All the excuses you give as to why you feel it necessary to insult the blog author show how stupid you really are. If it was common knowledge that the animation is reused, then WHY EVEN COMMENT! 90% of you think you just got raped by this blog post. Chill the fuck out. Disney did this to you. If you’re so dumb that you didn’t see it yourself, you don’t need to insult the person that pointed it out. And if there’s nothing wrong with reusing animation in your lying mind, then why are you insulting someone for reusing CELLS?
December 19th, 2008 at 2:26 am
Sage ” why not save a couple of bucks? ”
The fact that there a multi million dollar company, means nothing? The fact that they make millions of profits a year? I think they could have gone more creative and done different shots…
February 9th, 2009 at 3:44 am
they even recycle the same damn story over and over
February 21st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
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February 21st, 2009 at 9:02 pm
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February 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Honestly? Guys chill out.
No one said there was anything wrong with Disney doing this, and there’s not. That doesn’t say, however, that this isn’t interesting. You don’t really think about this stuff when you watch these movies, but when put side by side it’s really interesting to look at.
This is an awesome post. I liked it a lot.
Good job.
February 26th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
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March 1st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I went looking for a page like this because we just bought Snow white, Jungle Book, and Robin Hood. After watching them over and over again for the last two week. (my daughter can’t get enough) I started to see similarity between them.
I saw the snow white and maid Marian, and then I saw a Aristocats and Maid Marian dancing match. A jungle book - Balou and King loui v.s. Robin Hood - Little John and Pluckley dance match. I thought I was fun now I’m always looking, like it’s a game. lol.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 am
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March 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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April 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
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April 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
lol who knew this would be such a controversial subject.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
All seem fair puns of previous flick, except the last shot… which is surprisingly of a quite low quality, just like of a Saturday morning cartoon!
April 21st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Almost all of you here talk like stupid bastards!!! You do that! Create better stuff yourselves, consume lots of hours of your precious time, without criticizing others!
The value of a movie, game, creation resides in the story, the message it transmits, not in some pure mechanics! But I suppose you never learn from your fuckin’ history, do you dickheads???
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
HAHA! Thats what critics do! They don’t go out and make better stuff! They bitch about movies and tell people whether or not to see them!
June 7th, 2009 at 9:58 am
I don’t understand the complaints. This is genius in my opinion. Disney really tapped into a formula that I never thought much about before. Kids love familiarity so even if it’s not the same characters the movements and dances are familiar.
I understand how flipping hard it is to animate something believably and fluidly. Once you get it right it’s only understandable that you’d want to not go through the whole process again. And that they did it so well that even after you point it out it still doesn’t feel rehashed is damned impressive.
June 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
After seeing that reused animations I wonder why and how do they do so - I meen it looks exactly the same.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Christopher Robin has a better butt.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:37 am
Don’t mess with what works!
September 9th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
to the person…..who pointed out similar movements between Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter….if you knew anything about 3d…you’d realize that’s just talent on both animators parts on the sequences….
It doesn’t matter if they’re using 3d Max or Maya….either one….if it isn’t rigged right…it’s not going to move right…then you need someone who can actually animate it….and trust me that isn’t so simple….even in 3d.
and being an animator for 2d and 3d…..I can understand the concept of reusing…. It is A LOT of work….
It takes hours upon hours….just to render out 3 seconds of animation…..evil Maya….